What is your opinion. Was wondering about the Red Sunset. However, plant breeders have created crab apples that grow in all sizes and shapes, resist diseases and have fruit of different size and color. I’d be willing to spend $150 /year if it would keep that tree healthy. Thanks. USDA zones 5-9. For instance, a great crab apple I see for sale at the my Home Depot every spring is Sugar Tyme®. I have a friend who purchased a house in a nice modern new housing addition. Winter buds, clusters of small winter spring flowers, leaf stems, twigs, and winged summer fruits are all reddish colored. They have the largest samaras. Flowering crab apples are one of the staple flowering trees used by landscapers all over the US but especially in the Midwest. Birds won’t eat the fruit of a some crab apples. The birds and wild life will make quick work of all the seeds with virtually no germination. Its fall color is red-orange to deep scarlet and it produces few flowers and seed capsules. To avoid messy seeds, pick either Sugar Maple (Acer saccarum)or Red Maple (Acer rubrum). Try Red Sunset® or October Glory® for intense colour. The Red Sunset is a little leggier in our area than the others and tends to look a little rough in the heat. The newest red maple in our yard is the Autumn Flame (cross between R.Sunset and October Glory)... this tree seems to be the slowest grower of all, but has an outstanding shape, and great branching, it may end up as my new favorite. He's also been a horticulturist and aesthetic pruner at a top quality Japanese Garden, as well as a freelance garden consultant, Risk Management Consultant, Insurance Safety inspector and head banging Ice Cream Truck driver (yeah that was me cranking "And Justice for All") among other things. Our "Red Sunset", planted in 2000, confirms that assessment. The last 3 years it leaves turn translucent at this time of year . Verdict: GOOD! I have read that it is seedless, has great crotch angles & excellent prolonged fall color. The delicate foliage holds its color for several weeks before shedding to the ground. I thoroughly expect an exotic insect or disease to ravage our native maples soon. I have a Japanese maple in my front yard and its seedlings don't transplant well. Thanks for the info. It's not that easy; they want you to know what you want before you go in, which is nearly impossible when you don't know a thing about trees. In New Jersey and the surrounding areas, they are considered invasive. Many of these seedlings also have the thorns that had been bred out of their parent cultivars and make them a pain to remove. Red Sunset is a man selected breed of Red Maple (A.rubrum). One of the gardenweb members, Joolz, has some nice shots here: where you can get an idea of how fast red sunset grows -. I know the Autumn Blaze (half silver maple) sounds risky structurally so I vetoed that one. Don't forget some are oviate and some around round and spreading. However, it has become apparent that many cultivars have unexpectedly begun to interbreed fairly readily. We have a Crimson King Maple in our back yard that we are happy with. Wildlife Value: Very negative due to being so invasive. Thanks. What do you think? It gets ample moisture and fertilizer from the lawn. I dont' think you would be dissappointed. ....thank you....BobL. I can't tell from the photo how much light the room gets, or what the adjacent room looks like, but since it's an open space, consider the overall style and color palette you're after. It’s a winner for sure. It also does not hurt that this tree has a great red fall color. We need to plant a tree in the front yard. There is probably not a subdivision in my state where you can’t find this tree. Carolyn, I will need your number, please. They have been slow starters for me here, but part of that problem is the soil here, which has some unusual shrinking and swelling characteristics with changing moisture levels. After they get established these trees should grow about 18 inches per year, maybe a little more in good soil with good moisture. I'm thinking of planting a Red Sunset maple, or perhaps October Glory since I heard it has less droppings or some other advantage over Red Sunset (??) Best known for producing maple syrup. you could put an aloe Hercules in the large blue pot where the phormium is now and it would provide a narrow vertical presence for that narrow vertical space. They are not as bad as Norway maples for instance. While I sorted this list by Latin name, this tree would have been at the top if I sorted it by most used also. I read somewhere that it's a very slow grower. I think in general this fast growth is questionable for strength and habit. We’d love to keep it… Is it worth spending money for treatments to try to keep it alive for another 5-10 years? In my colder area near Chicago (zone 5), the purple forms tend to do better. My second best is Red Maple, and it probably gets the nod in the south where it will be more reliable in fall. Also, it tends to have a mix of orange and red which is more stunning that the all red look of most Red Maples. I don't know what kind of horror stories you've heard, but these two species have the smallest samaras of the large Maples. Here is a good resource is you really want to geek out about your options. Would you like to email it to me privately? I planted one and it’s now 20ft tall. See which tree is better for you below. Hi there! It is a dense tree with good green color and great fall color. I'm not familiar AT ALL with trees. So, I don't forget, I will set an alarm as I will in the midst of madness. My favorite is the Crimson Queen Japanese maple, mainly because it is one of the faster growing ones. The "Caddo" tends to have a rounded crown, but the "Autumn Blaze" is more oval in shape. North Point Red maple looks interesting to me. No personal experience. I will welcome the sanity you will bring in the craziness and loudness. There are many that do well in zone 5 and look great in all seasons. I'm stuck! October Glory Maple vs. >>I am curious what is wrong with the freemanii?Since I made the statement, I guess I'll wade in. • Sienna glen maple trees show fall color slightly earlier than autumn blaze maples. All Autumn Blaze maples are genetic clones of each other. Some are even fruitless. Hybrid between sugar and black maple. Great winter bark, beautiful white spring blooms, attractive and delicious fruit in the summer, and excellent orange fall color. As a specimen often in a bed of evergreen ground cover, few top the lace leaf Japanese Maples. >>I am curious what is wrong with the freemanii? I love the samaras which are prolific on the tree, but in 4 years, I have never had one germinate. So, I'm looking at trees and see various maples, including Red Sunset. Next time, I will write about landscapers favorite shrubs. If you really want white spring blooms, look at the crab apple or service berry mentioned above. It's basically care-free. I don't know if it's carried around here in NJ, but I'll keep an eye out. in a good size. I don't need an extremely fast rate, but I'd like it to have some presence in a few years. We have a spot on the back half of our yard, that is heavy clay covered in white rock. I was hoping to go somewhere & they say here's what you should buy. The Freeman Maple, also known as Autumn Blaze, is a cross between the red and silver maple species. The color you use should be chosen in conjunction with the tile. They are a host plant for many moths as well as the Mourning Cloak and Dreamy Duskywing butterflies. Red Maple accepts many conditions, and is fast growing. We don't know what we want. I don't like Silver Maple for any residential planting and Norway Maple is an invasive exotic with poor fall color. Apple trees are susceptible to a number of diseases and this includes crab apples. Yeah, I would probably axe the elm while its easy and cheap. Crabapples are among the showiest spring flowering trees for full sun conditions. They certainly are NOT in my area. They can be successfully grown as a street-side or landscape plant and are prized for their ability to provide shade. This not only adds to the winter landscape scene but also attracts birds in late winter when the fruit is one of the few foods available to them. The Red Sunset® Red Maple has been specially selected from among thousands of seedlings to be the best red maple available. The leaves eventulally curl up and die. While being a healthy specimen with a dense round crown of branches and leaves, our "Red Sunset" has been inconsistent in producing good fall color. Verdict: BAD. Not only are its fall colors of red and orange outstanding, they develop almost two weeks before other varieties, yet they stay on the tree for weeks. I’ve written about this tree before. Their formal shape and their spring blooms (which stink bad!) It is best to stick with cultivars known for their fall color consistency, such as the reliably red Autumn Blaze (Acer x freemanii 'Jeffersred'). We have October Glory, Autumn Blaze, Red Sunset, and Autumn Flame all planted in our yard (and at our nursery) A. Blaze is by far the fastest growing, we've had NO problems with it (it is my favorite). They both have excellent creamy rich exfoliating bark that looks better then the straight species. An improved hybrid with brilliant, long lasting orange-red fall color, a uniform branching habit and rapid growth rate. The glossy green leaves persist on the tree turning orange-red to brilliant red in the fall. I planted an "Autumn Glory" in front of my house last year and the leaves in fall are bright red. We have October Glory, Autumn Blaze, Red Sunset, and Autumn Flame all planted in our yard (and at our nursery) A. Blaze is by far the fastest growing, we've had NO problems with it (it is my favorite). I've spent waaaay too long looking at photos and reading info, and I think that's the one I'm leaning toward. This falls in the same category as the Autumn Blaze maple, except it is not a hybrid. 2) we have about 10 ash trees that are all dead or dying from the ash borer (and they will be cut down), but we have one big beauty that still looks healthy. This tree is planted by just about everybody and for good reasons, it is a great tree by many criteria. :). Do not plant. We do have irises under the tree. This tree is reported to be one of the top 5 most desired front yard trees. You could instead choose red brick to match the steps. Not recommended as a long term tree. That same landscaper planted two of the same kind of trees at the entry of that neighborhood not more than 3 city blocks away from the horse area. Red maples are often called Swamp maples for a reason. Has anyone experience with this? If not check out the Black Tupelo (Nyssa sylvtica) that is described on the Nature Hills Nursery web site. (A tree a guy at our local nursery suggested). Not too messy & a lot of nice shade. In Ohio you usually see for sale "Red Sunset" or "Autumn Glory"... from many sources that I've read, both are suppossed to be excellent/ superlative Maples for smaller urban yards, or front yards, or along the street. Wildlife value: Good for river bed areas it is native to, although it is a genetic clone, so it provides little genetic diversity. Verdict: GOOD! Bright red to orange fall color. It is about 12ft across now. He stone patio? Has anyone grown an Acer Rubrum in clay? Red Maples. While red maples thrive in wet areas of partial shade, they also do well in full sun and can tolerate moderate droughts. you're looking for, and it does grow fairly fast. I will have an arborist check it out and if we can keep it alive for a while longer it’s worth it. October Glory Maple vs. Some good ones include: ‘Sargent’, ‘Sargent Tina’, ‘Snowdrift’ and ‘Adirondack’. But I firmly believe we will see it soon. Just don't want anything super huge, but something tall enough to provide ample shade for a 2 story house. I think the best large Maple is Sugar Maple. This ornamental red maple cultivar will add some dramatic color to you yard each fall. Also choose fruit that is persistent, which means it does not fall to the ground and stays on the tree for a winter meal for birds such as cedar waxwings. This means they add very little to the genetic diversity of our landscapes. They also have the highest germination rate meaning thousands of seedlings growing in your lawn and beds every year. Wildlife value: River birches have high wildlife value. A great specimen plant for the landscape although it does not help wildlife. Learn how your comment data is processed. You get the tougher foliage of the black maple combined with the stronger fall color of the sugar maple. It has excellent disease resistance, fragrant white flowers in spring and persistent red fruits to provide a nice fall and winter display. One of the best trees that landscapers use frequently. October has a thick head, is a good grower and has great fall color. Other than the obvious issue of "what tree", figuring out how far from the house to plant it, and how to position it relative to the bay window are concerns. I don't mind if they have seeds, but I've heard horror stories on the Sugar Maples. Bright green leaves turn orange, red, and golden yellow in fall. I'm putting my seatbelt on! The tree easily reaches 40 feet tall and 20 feet wide, as it grows in a pyramidal shape which begins to open as the tree ages. I planted two here about three years ago. Would that even work or is it too late? The grasshopper's "Red Sunset" tree must have read the Okie's previous post here. 1) we moved from Evanston, IL to a western suburb and some elm tree seedlings came along in a large flowerpot. Red Sunset is a great tree, but it doesn't take the heat here quite as well as the October Glory. The tree has a rounded oval form and its leaves resemble the leaves of the silver maple. Or if you'd like, I can give you mine. Add flower boxes for seasonal color at the two windows. Before you decide on a backsplash, I would suggest you go with your original instinct and paint your cabinets. If you purchase one in the fall from a nursery, you can easily see which ones have the red folliage that rival the autumn leafed Red maple trees. Verdict: GOOD! For grasses, take a look at carex testacea (a nice rust color) and Karl Foerster feather reed grass, which provides another vertical accent. Your email address will not be published. The Callery Pear usually seen is still the Bradford Pear. The Black Tupelo sounds like an interesting alternative. This deciduous tree develops a dense oval head with strong branching which makes it a popular shade tree as well as an ornamental tree. Jim, you should warn your clients that River Birch should not be planted within 25′ of any hardscaping as their aggressive near surface roots will push up even 4 inches of concrete pavement. Celebration® Maple is slightly narrower than other Freeman Maple cultivars although not in-league with upright trees like Crimson Spire Oak or Armstrong Maple. Red maples are slower growing. Festuca Elijah blue would mimic the grey of the house. The good news, is in most areas they are not considered invasive. It is over planted because of it’s great fall color (even better then the Autumn Blaze). Which trees are most friendly to the bay window crisis? We however can be a little more picky. The sad thing is that most landscapers and nurserymen have never heard about the danger those dropped leaves are for horses. Less damage in wind storms. Grows 40'-50' high with a 25'-35' spread. Both red and sugar maple seedlings vary widely in autumn color tendencies. I saw some people who worked out the window dilemma by cutting all of the low branches off, but it had dual trunks, and attempts to save it didn't look good.Anyway, now my problem is the mid-day sun bakes the house, and the middle section looks empty. The Red Sunset is a little leggier in our area than the others and tends to look a little rough in the heat. I planted a 20-25′ crabapple tree last Sunday. A patented plant, search USPTO web site for PP 2339 if you want to read a full description. Some plants don't like being moved. The main difference between the two is the size. Thanks! From the pictures, it seems that the actual width is less than the designated spread. I'd get a water meter (probably around $10 at your hardware store) and make sure you're not overwatering. Acer platenoides 'Crimson King' 'Crimson Queen' etc. I especially like the smaller medium sized Dura-Heat as a shade tree as it fit’s into smaller sites better then the species or Heritage, which are both good where a larger tree is wanted. Wildlife value: As a hybrid of two native trees, you can expect this tree to provide some of the same wildlife benefits of it’s parents. Wildlife value: Zilch, zippo, nada! This fast growth has made this tree an absolute favorite of nurseries and impatient customers. 'Armstrong' can grow to be taller than Autumn Blaze (up to 70 feet) and yet has a narrower spread (15 to 20 feet); this gives it a distinctly columnar shape. 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